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hello, this is bbc news. i'm duncan golestani. our top stories: north korea says it's developed a powerful nuclear device small enough to be loaded onto an intercontinental missile, but offers no proof. president trump arrives in flood—hit louisiana to see the damage caused by storm harvey. earlier, he met survivors in texas and helped volunteers distribute aid. in south asia, catastrophic flooding has affected more than 45 million people. we report from one of india's worst—hit provinces. the waterjust came crashing in here, sweeping away half the village, devastating their homes, devastating their lives. prosecutors in france step up the search for a 9—year—old girl who disappeared from a family wedding last week. two men are released without charge. and thousands set foot across scotland's new forth bridge ahead of monday's official opening.
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welcome to the programme. we start this hour with some breaking news. that is that reports are coming from both south korea and china suggesting that north korea may have carried out some sort of test. this follows seismologist picking up on some sort of explosion from the united states‘s geological survey, they have picked up a magnitude 5.6 tremor, i'm sorry, thatis magnitude 5.6 tremor, i'm sorry, that is actually from the chinese authorities, from the us they have picked up also on tremor is. south korea saying the north may have conduct did another test, that is coming from the newsagency in south korea. we can speak now to
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yogita limaye tell us what we are hearing in the last few minutes. we have spoken to the south korean defence ministry who are saying they have detected the earthquake in the north—eastern pa rt the earthquake in the north—eastern part of north korea. they are still analysing to see whether it was triggered by any sort of explosion ora triggered by any sort of explosion or a possible test but what we also know is south korean president which are in is convened an emergency meeting of the security council to try and analyse what the earthquake is, however triggered. the united states geological survey has also said, confirmed this, but there has been a 5.6 scale earthquake in the north—eastern part of north korea. but no confirmation that this is definitely a nuclear test. the chinese administration, chinese earthquake administration, has said that they think this is a blast that
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triggered the earthquake is that is the information we have as of now. put this in context for us because we we re put this in context for us because we were talking just a few hours ago about something else that will help make sense of this, wouldn't it? well this comes against the backdrop of heightened tensions in north korea, perhaps, you know, at a point where they have not been in recent yea rs. we where they have not been in recent years. we missile test conducted by north korea just on tuesday, for not even a week. this morning we woke up toa even a week. this morning we woke up to a statement from the north korean official newsagency that said its leader kimjong official newsagency that said its leader kim jong ong official newsagency that said its leader kimjong ong had inspected a hydrogen bomb so a very high—powered nuclear device that they say they are now capable of fitting on an intercontinental ballistic missile. we already know that injuly intercontinental ballistic missile. we already know that in july they tested these long—range rockets and if they are now saying that they are able to miniature rise of warhead to put on those long—range missiles, it will be seen as a very serious
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threat by america. this comes against the backdrop of tensions we have seen all through the month of august, an intense war of words between pyongyang and washington, we have the north korea making threats that it will fire rockets at the us pacific to remit of wild and we've seen it on tuesday, firing rocket that passed over japan seen it on tuesday, firing rocket that passed overjapan and then crashed into the sea about 1000 kilometres the coast of the northern island of hokkaido for this would be, you know, another step in the escalation we have seen here, you know, we are going to have a national security council meeting here that president moon will be chairing and hopefully we will understand why this effect was triggered, was it indeed a nuclear test, and other nuclear tests conducted by north korea. it's also worth knowing last nuclear test conducted was in september last year, almost a year ago. they conducted two, injanuary and september, and very often, at when they conducted a nuclear test they said it was a response to joint
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military drills by the us and south korea to take place every august and last week actually the drills have here in south korea. many experts have been saying that the nuclear testis have been saying that the nuclear test is imminent, that it isn't a question of if but when. of course we are still waiting to find out if what we are seeing and hearing about todayis what we are seeing and hearing about today is indeed the nuclear tests that providers expect in. today is indeed the nuclear tests that providers expect inlj today is indeed the nuclear tests that providers expect in. i suppose what we have here is to separate announcement or two separate developments in the last few hours that may or may not be connected and we have to be careful as we go through that. as it were just talking about, we were looking at pictures that of kim jong—un inspecting what north korea newsagency is a saying is some sort of hydrogen bomb that could be fitted onto an intercontinental ballistic missile. it was a few hours ago, we were talking about that, weren't we? and nowjust in
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the last few minutes, we are getting these reports of some sort of explosion, some sort of tremor. depending on who you listen to. there we are. that is kim jong on their looking at what the north korean agencies are saying is some sort of hydrogen bomb that can be fitted onto an intercontinental lipstick missile. and then in the last few minutes got this development of tremors being measured somewhere off north korea. i suppose it is important to say that earthquakes have been triggered by north korea carrying out test of that has increased since 2006. give us that has increased since 2006. give usa that has increased since 2006. give us a sense that has increased since 2006. give us a sense of how kim jong—un has really ratcheted up the amount of testing that north korea has carried out over the last few years. well, you know, if you look at the missile tests which is different from the nuclear tests there have been more than one doesn't is a launch is just
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this year alone. two injuly, we have seen two in the month of august, that was a series of short—range missiles that were fired and then the one last week that was fired overjapan, an intermediate range missile. as far as nuclear akrotiri, since 2006 they have conducted five. injanuary last akrotiri, since 2006 they have conducted five. in january last year when they conducted a nuclear make them too, they tested a very powerful hydrogen bomb, the claim made by pyongyang. it was disputed by experts who said it was probably a less powerful nuclear device. the announcement this morning, just a sort of put all of this in perspective, the statement we had from the agency this morning was saying that they have prepared a very powerful hydrogen bomb so powerful nuclear device, and the important bit of that statement was that they had said that this is actually a warhead, which they can fit onto an intercontinental ballistic missile. they tested long—range missiles in july, ballistic missile. they tested long—range missiles injuly, to test carried out, any experts believe
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those missiles are actually capable of hitting the us mainland so the announcement this morning essentially amounts to north korea thing that we are able to now weaponised our long—range missiles. as far as the nuclear test is concerned, they have conducted five asi concerned, they have conducted five as i was saying, to last year, we haven't seen a nuclear test conducted this year. in august, south korea spy agency had said that what they have gathered from north korea is that a nuclear test is imminent, the preparations are under way for that, and we are now hearing, we have had confirmation that there has been a 5.6 on the richter scale earthquake and we are still waiting to find out if that was triggered by a nuclear test. you know, what we know is that happened in the north—eastern part of the country. this is a province from where, whether i nuclear testing site is located but we do not have confirmation from the us or south korea or even from north korea
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themselves that this is indeed a nuclear test. do stay with us but for now, thank you. i'm joined now bya for now, thank you. i'm joined now by a nuclear expert from south korea. can i get your reaction to these tremors, then felt off north korea? sure. so we know that, we have been hearing that it is artificial, they are artificial tremors which most likely in any given scenario is probably a nuclear test. this entire situation, this recent artificial earthquake, the latest photos released by casey in a kim jong—un supposedly observing a nuclear warhead being mounted on a icbm, all of this is certainly concerning but this is not surprising. we have expected all of
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this to happen. it was just a matter of time. kim jong—un pyongyang this to happen. it was just a matter of time. kimjong—un pyongyang is showing their goals, the technological goals, by releasing these photos and we are at a situation and a time where seoul and washington cannot afford to have any rift in the alliance or any intentions so this is when i would argue that washington should reconsider and not pull up of the us — korea trade agreement at this time because this is exactly what north korea wants. pyongyang wants to see the allies drift apart and doing so, pulling out of the fta would hand a go on everything he wants on a silver platter. we're looking at some of kim jong—un silver platter. we're looking at some of kimjong—un inspecting silver platter. we're looking at some of kim jong—un inspecting what is thought to be, what is described by north korea newsagency is as a hydrogen bomb capable of fitting onto an intercontinental ballistic missile. these pictures are coming
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in to us in the last few hours. we can see him there taking a look at, inspecting it with scientists. he really isn't backing down, is he? he's going to push the united states, japan, china, south korea, to their limit. that's it looks like. sure, definitely. he is on a course, he is sprinting towards the finish line right now. should not expect him to any time soon. kim jong—un will achieve his goals which basically is nuclear tipped icbm, nuclear missiles, and so if we leave the situation unchecked, he will reach that. he is basically trying to achieve what the bill objectives, achieve technological advance —— adjectives, nuclear tipped missiles, political objectives by gaining
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lethbridge, if and when negotiations ever do begin with the united states, and also achieving a domestic, showing his people that the north is mighty and powerful and indestructible. so that is another key component that, to show his constituents that pyongyang will never cave and will never blink in the face of a bigger power us. do stay with us, just there, i want to remind viewers of exactly what we are breaking this power and that is that china earthquake administration is saying on sunday that it has detected a 6.3 magnitude earthquake in north korea that was a quote suspected explosion. the importance of that is it comes just a few hours after north korea newsagency is announced that kim jong—un had inspected some sort of hydrogen bomb capable of being fitted onto intercontinental ballistic missiles.
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so, the two events happening just hours apart now causing concern in southeast asia and we've heard that the south korean government is doing to hold a meeting of its security cabinet committee in the coming hours. let's go back to my guests now. do you think kim jong—un hours. let's go back to my guests now. do you think kimjong—un in any way he fears the consequences of what he is doing, from president trump tojapan, to what he is doing, from president trump to japan, to south korea, from anyone? based on his actions he is basically telling the world that nothing scares him, nothing will stop him, sanctions will not stop him. he also seems to be saying that he basically seems to be saying" ring it on." he is trying to say, to test washington, tokyo, the alliance, individually, china even, and it's clear that he is trying to test his own limits but this is a
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very dangerous situation. should washington react, to the other countries react, should pyongyang even go further, any sense of any hint ofany even go further, any sense of any hint of any miscalculation, any misinterpretation, that is what we are most concerned about, the miscalculations and misinterpretations might spiral into unintended military actions. what can south korea, what canjapan do, what do you think realistically they arejust going to be what do you think realistically they are just going to be looking towards washington for action? well look like... the reality is they will have to look to washington to make the next move. that'sjust have to look to washington to make the next move. that's just the reality of the situation because pyongyang will only deal with washington on the nuclear issue. now, seoul has president moon has done everything he could, he has extended multiple olive branches,
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overtures, gestures, explicit signals and messages to the north, proposing discussions and talks and is trying to reduce risk to try to reduce tensions, but apparently the actions and words kim jong—un reduce tensions, but apparently the actions and words kimjong—un is saying he doesn't care, he is going all the way with this. we have to say, this is not without precedent. earthquakes have been triggered before by north korea carrying out tests. the magnitudes of those tests have been increasing since 2006. this has happened before, but how worried are we? sure, so with each test, i do get more worried. because the more test is, whether they are missiles or nuclear devices, the better the north gets in perfecting its technology. so that is where we should be worried. the north, frankly, would not be embarrassed
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with any failures, because they gain knowledge from every single task and every failure, so basically practice makes perfect is how the saying goes, and that applies to the north. so we're in a situation when first, yes, immediately we need to find a way, as difficult as it may seem, we need to find a way to start to halt the missile tests and to try and get toa the missile tests and to try and get to a situation where we can somehow, if at all possible, to verify and eventually get to a rollback and denuclearisation situation. but this will not happen easily. it is clear the north is going to play tough, and with every test it is raising the price for dialogue. it is raising the price for any sort of negotiation. and so we are really stuck in a very difficult situation here. but that does not mean that washington should not tried to seize every opportunity. we do appreciate
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you giving us your instant analysis. thank you forjoining us on bbc news. if you are justjoining thank you forjoining us on bbc news. if you arejustjoining us, a recap of what we are talking about. in breaking news on the bbc, south korean military is saying that it has recorded a magnitude 5.6 earthquake detected near north korea, near a north korean nuclear test site. the importance of that if it comes a few hours after north korean news agencies boasted that the country had produced a hydrogen type bomb that was capable of being fitted onto an intercontinental ballistic missile. so those two events happening in the last few hours. that breaking newsjust coming into us. stay with us on bbc news. she received the nobel peace prize for her work with the poor and the dying in india's slums. the head of the catholic church said mother teresa was a wonderful example of how to help people in need.
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reports suggest north korea may have carried out another nuclear test. seismologists have detected tremors which they suspect were caused by a blast. it comes after pyongyang claims they have developed a powerful nuclear device is small enough to be loaded onto an intercontinental missile. president trump has arrived in the flood—hit state of louisiana to see the damage caused by hurricane harvey. earlier he met survivors in houston, texas, and helped volunteers distribute aid. let's stay with that story. americans look to their president. he's expected, required, to show empathy, leadership and unity. today, donald trump did deliver hugs and handshakes, and over the past week, the commander—in—chief‘s response to this hurricane has been praised
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to flood—hit parts of texas and louisiana, as well as the latest rescue and relief efforts. just go to bbc.com/news. the fbi and usjustice department have confirmed they've found no evidence to support donald trump's claim his predecessor, ba rack 0bama, wiretapped trump tower during last year's election campaign. the investigation followed a tweet by the president in march of this year. mexico's president, enrique pena nieto, has warned he won't accept any border deal with the united states that goes against mexico's dignity as a nation. his comments were made during his first state of the union address since president trump came to power. cambodia's opposition leader has been arrested and accused of treason. kem sokha was taken into custody following a raid on his house. his daughter said he and his bodyguards had been taken away by up to 200 police officers. the international pressure group, human rights watch, described the arrest as a disastrous
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setback for the country. i wanted to bring you up—to—date with the breaking news we are following here at the bbc, and that is that china's earthquake administration says it has detected a 6.3 magnitude earthquake in north korea, which it is saying it was a suspected explosion. the south korean military are saying they believe it is man—made. it is being detected near north korea, south korea saying they think it is near where north korea carries out some of its test. that comes hours after north korea said that it had produced a hydrogen bomb capable of going onto an intercontinental ballistic. photos of kim jong—un, the leader of north korea,
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inspecting that bomb, have been circulating for the last few hours. the sequence of pictures of him taking a look at what north korean news agencies are describing as a hydrogen bomb. so that was a few hours ago, and now, in the last few minutes, that breaking news that china,japan and minutes, that breaking news that china, japan and south korea have been registering tremors, that some of those countries believe are some sort of man—made explosion. so let's speak to bruce bennett, a defence a nalyst speak to bruce bennett, a defence analyst at the rand corporation. thank you very much forjoining us on bbc news. your reaction to these two developments in the last few hours, is? well, if it really does prove to be 6.3, that is a very big weapon. it is still not a true hydrogen bomb, but it is certainly much closer to that than anything they have ever done before. so this is an advance for kim jong—un, if
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thatis is an advance for kim jong—un, if that is truly what it proves to be. at it has also got to be terrifying in china, because chinese people across the border from that area, they were undoubtedly shaken terribly. how do you think those countries will react? well, i think china will be very unhappy, japan, south korea, this is not a happy development, and one to which i think the world is going to want to have serious sanctions put on north korea, in addition to what already exists. in terms of washington, the rhetoric has been increasing over the last few weeks, over the last few months. how do you think a trump white house will deal with this? well, i think they have got to take a combination of actions. i think they will want to explore actions like saying that any more missile tests will be intercepted, if they can be. i think they will want to
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consider more reconnaissance flights near north korea. i think they will probably want to start taking some internal political actions against north korea, for example describing the fact that kim jong—un's grandfather on his mother's side was a japanese collaborator. the people of north korea need to know what kind of individual they have leaving the country. bruce, let's separate these two developments and take them one by one, starting with that development a few hours ago, which is north korea saying it had developed a hydrogen bomb. we have seen developed a hydrogen bomb. we have seen pictures of kimjong—un inspecting it. what do you make of that announcement? do you believe that announcement? do you believe that to be truthful? well, i think the first vision is that he said he was going to have a hydrogen bomb in december of 2015. when they tested his theoretical hydrogen bomb in
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january of 2016, it didn't come anywhere close to being fat. if the current readings that they are suggesting a true, then here is much closer now. he has actually got in a much bigger bang than previously. so we will be watching very carefully the seismic readings are different countries register. just because they might have a hydrogen bomb, what other technical barriers do they need to get over before they pose a risk to countries further afield? well, north korea claimed, after the icbm launches injuly that they could deliver a nuclear weapon to anywhere in the united states. the reality is, they're longer range missile injuly the reality is, they're longer range missile in july it the reality is, they're longer range missile injuly it probably was carrying a very small warhead, according to some experts. as a result, something of the weight of a likely nuclear weapon, north korea probably can't yet deliver beyond
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parts of alaska. so there are still thresholds that they have got to get through. they haven't proven that they have got a warhead that would be adequate to get it through the atmosphere for a icbm, when it goes through an incredible heat, and they haven't proven that they have got anything like the kind of guidance that they would need, and the package on the missile, to get it to a target that they are going after. so they still have several key aspect of an icbm that they have two test and prove. just explain that point for us. i am going to put it crudely, i am point for us. i am going to put it crudely, iam not point for us. i am going to put it crudely, i am not an expert like you, but it is one thing, isn't it, to get these missiles up into the ad, but getting them back down in one piece and capable of fulfilling their supposedly tangent is quite another, isn't it? —— up into the air. absolutely, it is very challenging to get it back through the atmosphere. there have been comments about the last icbm test
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that suggested on 28july comments about the last icbm test that suggested on 28 july that the warhead may have burned up, or part of the missile may have burned up. we really don't know. north korea doesn't seem to have ships out in the impact area, so that they can determine how accurate the incoming missile has been, or the warhead has been. so they have got a lot of issues they still have to master. bruce, we arejust issues they still have to master. bruce, we are just getting another development in, and that is that china's earthquake administration is saying that it has detected another quakein saying that it has detected another quake in north korea, the magnitude of this month 4.6, so slightly lower than the one reported a few minutes ago —— magnitude of this one. china is terming it a collapse. i wonder what you might make of that? they are terming it a collapse. well, we have to remember that the richter scale is a logarithmic scale, so if
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there really was a 6.3 before, if that was what was recorded, that is ten times the explosion of a 5.3, which was roughly what we had in september of last year. so that would be a much bigger explosion. if it is 4.6, that is down almost six or eight times. that is saying that you have got something much closer to their first you have got something much closer to theirfirst or you have got something much closer to their first or second nuclear tests, which would only be a few kilotonnes. it could be that they tried to do two weapons, one right after another, and the second one just didn't perform very well. because we have to say, this is not without precedent. north korea has been doing this for many years, testing weapons underground that then cause these tremors. so what might have happened tonight is not necessarily completely new, is it? no, they have done

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